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Please think of this as a double issue.  Thanks to Joe Simonetta's long visit, which split my time and attention, plus some intense conversation in which I'm embroiled, where I feel like I'm struggling for peace in some mirror of the hopeless factionalism in the Middle East, it's been awhile since you've gotten anything .  Usually, we put the whole of Five Star pieces in our Updates, but, since there are three this time, we are just putting quotes here, with links to where they are posted on our site.
 
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May 8, 2002

New Conversation Re the Middle East Conflict: [
http://www.theconversation.org/c-mideast.html]

Suzanne's comments: I am very very sad. I don't know if I'm becoming too tired or too old or what, but I can't stand it anymore to be at all polite about how things are in a level of everyday violence toward each other that fits with a macro level, where we blithely embrace what could so easily destroy humanity.  In my outrage, I initiated this dialogue, where a rabbi is insisting on eyes for eyes, and the equation gives up Arab civilians to the slaughter. My God, Jews advocating extermination. Israel is making war, and dirty war at that, but that doesn't put me on the Palestinian side. I'm anti-war. That isn't a side; it's a call to the recognition of our oneness. Anything else is the destruction of humanity, which is all too real a possibility now.

I am trying to initiate some wake-up conversation that attracts smart people. Can some clear headed folks join me in talking ourselves into something new? Can we do a Margaret Mead, where a "small group of thoughtful, committed citizens" can, indeed, change the world? Some of the brightest minds out there are reading this. I hope you wise ones are impelled to chime in.

 
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Column from Arianna Huffington: Greed, Fraud, And Apologies: Corporate America's New Bottom Line -- May 6, 2002
Full column:
http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/files/050602.html

Suzanne's comment: Eliot Spitzer for president -- or maybe vice president, under Arianna. Here's one for lovers of whistle blowing -- the horrors to which Wall Street and corporate America have subjected the public know no bounds, and these good folks are making sure everybody knows it. Three cheers for "Eliot Spitzer, the crusading attorney general of New York, whose investigation into conflicts of interest in the investment banking world is ruffling feathers from Wall Street to Capitol Hill."

Other quotes drawn from the column:

...[Eliot Spitzer's] probe has so far uncovered shocking evidence that analysts at Merrill Lynch gave investors misleading stock recommendations in order to help promote companies their firm's investment bankers were doing business with...

But all the apologies and damage control in the world won't make this problem go away. Too many people were lied to and financially devastated along the way. Since the Merrill Lynch emails were made public, lawyers across the country have been inundated with calls from angry investors looking for restitution.

"Merrill Lynch used to be the gold standard for how an investment banker should do business," Philip Aidikoff, president of the Public Investors Arbitration Bar Association, told me. "Now, at my firm alone, we're getting 40 to 45 calls a day from Merrill customers who feel they've been duped."...

Stay tuned, this one is far from over.


Column from Geov Parrish: And the Beating Goes On: American Media and Colin Powell Have Moved on But the Nightmare Hasn't -- April 19, 2002
Full Column: http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=13174

Suzanne's comment: I missed this one somehow, which was made even more poignant, when I happened upon it, by the rabidunqualified defense of Israel going on in our conversation section [http://www.theconversation.org/c-mideast.html
] by two correspondents, one of whom has broken off communication with me and removed me from his list that I've been on for some months. Their position is grounded in the lack of verification for Israel having committed atrocities, as if you couldn't conclude such a thing from pieces like this, which I can't imagine being unconvincing about the wanton brutality Israeli soldiers are inflicting on Palestinians. It's scary to me that such a whitewash is underway here in America -- like the U.S. version of the Middle East, where you are on one side or another. No matter that I suggest there need to be no sides, and that, regardless of support for the best of what Israel represents, we have to come out from any blanket approval, as would be true of anything we fundamentally support, to be in the here and now where we hold all people to account. We are a world of people who all need to be supporting oneness, and that track is the only one that leads to peace. "In Britain: prominent Jewish MP Gerald Kaufman, to approving cries from both sides of the aisle, delivered a blistering speech this week on the floor of the House of Commons, calling Ariel Sharon a 'war criminal' who was 'staining the star of David.' In the U.S., we hear that Yasser Arafat is failing to control people he cannot possibly control..."

Other quotes drawn from the column:

To put Israel's actions in context, let's start with this week's press release from those noted Palestinian sympathizers, Amnesty International:

Speaking from inside Jenin Refugee Camp, Amnesty International delegate Javier Zuniga said, "This is one of the worst scenes of devastation I have ever witnessed. It is almost impossible to conceive that what was once a town is now a lunar landscape. There is a real possibility that people are still alive under the rubble of their former homes. One of our colleagues from a local human rights organization received a phone call from a family of 10 trapped below ground and asking for help, yet there is no evidence of concerted efforts to search for and rescue survivors."

Amnesty International is calling for immediate and unimpeded access for humanitarian assistance wherever it is needed. If this was an earthquake the international community would be asked for and give urgent help. It is shocking that the authorities have not asked for help and that the international community is not offering it...


Column from Geov Parrish: The Untied Nations: The Israeli and Iraqi Double Standard for International Oversight -- May 2, 2002
Full Column: http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemId=13246

Suzanne's comments: This column is about the impotence of the U.N., as a puppet of American whim, and the trump card that it gives Iraq by failing to ask that Israel be held up to the same scrutiny it wants for Iraq. "Dubya's particularly obtuse insistence that Iraq accept the U.N. teams gives Saddam Hussein a sympathy card that will play well virtually throughout the world. And now, Iraq can rub it in even further, by pointing to the grotesque double standard of Israel's right to reject a U.N. inspection -- one which it had previously approved -- when the topic is not potential for mass murder, but determining whether mass murder has already occurred."

Other quotes drawn from the column:

...another round of humiliating impotence for the United Nations. Today, a fact-finding mission, left to cool its heals by Israel while the bodies cooled in the Jenin Refugee Camp, gave up and went home...

The U.N., understandably, wanted to separate fact from rumor; unless the worst of the rumors are true, such an exercise would actually have helped Israel. But in what kind of an investigation -- let alone one involving allegations of crimes against humanity -- does the defendant get to dictate the terms of who will do the investigating, where they will be allowed, what they can look at, and when they can do it?
 
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Other additions to our Quotes section [http://www.theconversation.org/index.html#quotes]:

This article was sent to us by William Golden:

Jews for Justice
Michael Lerner
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020520&s=lerner

They call us "self-hating" Jews when we raise criticisms of Israeli policies. Yet most of those Jews who risk this calumny as the cost of getting involved actually feel a special resonance with the history and culture of the Jews--because this is a people who have proclaimed a message of love, justice and peace...No wonder, then, that social-justice-oriented American Jews today feel betrayed by Israeli policies that seem transparently immoral and self-destructive.

Social justice Jews are not apologists for Palestinian violence. We are outraged by the immoral acts of Palestinian terrorists who blow up Israelis at Seder tables, or while they shop, or sit in cafes, or ride in buses. We know that these acts of murder cannot be excused. But many of us also understand that Israeli treatment of Palestinians has been immoral and outrageous...

There is ample reason for the non-Jewish world to atone for its past oppression of Jews. But non-Jews are doing no favors to the Jewish people when by their silence they help the most destructive elements of the Jewish world pursue immoral policies that almost certainly will generate more hatred of Jews.

...an impossible choice between pro-Israel groups that support Sharon's current policies in lockstep or pro-Palestinian groups that claim the Palestinians are facing Nazi-like genocide at the hands of the Jewish people (an exaggeration that allows right-wing Jews to yell "anti-Semitism" because there is no attempt to systematically murder Palestinians, thereby letting Israel off the hook).


CIVIL LIBERTIES
The New War on Freedom
Give me liberty, or give me . . . what? Security?
Gore Vidal
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/04/21/IN83832.DTL

Since V-J Day 1945 ("Victory over Japan" and the end of World War II), we have been engaged in what the historian Charles A. Beard called "perpetual war for perpetual peace." I have occasionally referred to our 'enemy of the month club': Each month we are confronted by a new horrendous enemy at whom we must strike before he destroys us. The Federation of American Scientists has catalogued nearly 200 such military incursions since 1945 initiated by the United States...

The awesome physical damage Osama and company did to us on Dark Tuesday is as nothing compared to the knockout blow to our vanishing liberties: The Anti-Terrorist Act of 1996 and the recent USA PATRIOT Act (still being written after it was passed, and thus unread by the Congress which passed it.)


Kucinich Is the One
Studs Terkel
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020506&s=terkel

In his speech to the Southern California Americans for Democratic Action, criticizing Bush's conduct of the war on terrorism, Dennis Kucinich set the crowd on its ear--one standing ovation after another. Sure, they were all liberals, but what counted was the response on the Internet. The Cleveland Congressman's e-mail box was stuffed to overflowing with 20,000-plus enthusiastic letters...

"I found out very quickly there were a number of special-interest groups who made city hall their private warren. There are thirty-two councilmen. Thirty-one to one was usually the score. When I got elected mayor just as I came to the Council, I was expected to represent the system. When I started to challenge it, the titans of Cleveland's business community began to get surly and used their clout in the media to disparage the administration. I came to understand that big business has a feudal view of the city, and that city hall was within their fiefdom."...

"There are increasingly two Americas: the America of multinationals dictating decisions in Washington, and the America of neighborhoods and rural areas, who feel left out. I see, in the future, a cataclysm: popular forces converging on an economic elite, which feels no commitments to the needs of the people. That clash is already shaping up. The American Revolution never really ended. It's a continuing process. I think we're approaching the revolution of hope. We have the country that makes it possible for people, if they've lost control of the government, to regain it in a peaceful way. Through the ballot box. Before I got into politics, I didn't know whether what I was doing even mattered. Now I know. One person can make a difference."...

Imagine him in a televised, coast-to-coast debate with Dubya. Blood wouldn't flow, but it would be a knockout in the first round, and we'd have an honest-to-God working-class President for the first time in our history...I haven't touched on ways and means. Obviously, the big dough will not be there. But this could be the catapult for the hundreds of grassroots groups on a thousand and one issues to coalesce behind one banner. Jim Hightower has touched on that often. And Michael Moore's book, "Stupid White Men," is a bestseller. And there's a whole new generation of kids, not just the students, but bewildered, lost blue-collar kids. And, strangely enough, it can be done the old-fashioned way, shoe leather and bell-ringing, as well as e-mails. It could be that exciting.
 
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Five Star Piece:  Gaza City: Sharon's War On The Future -- An Eyewitness Recounts Israel's Military Action, Benjamin Dov Granby -- May 2, 2002
Full piece: http://www.theconversation.org/gaza.html

Suzanne's comment: This is a first hand account from a Palestinian about Ramallah. I wonder if anyone would dispute it. This story portrays the outrage Sharon's Israelis are perpetrating, that only can destroy hopes for any peaceful, negotiated resolution -- confirming that Sharon's idea is to resolve the situation by destroying this generation of Palestinians. I hope it is a help in seeing that the Israel we love is being steered by the reprehensible behavior of this Israeli government. "...under the cloak of a 'war against terrorism,' Sharon, ever the pragmatist, took the opportunity to also destroy any vestige of a viable Palestinian society, one that could someday flourish as an independent nation. By rhetorically subsuming all Palestinian citizenry into the archetype of bloodthirsty terrorists, he has gotten away with sabotaging any future alternatives to Yasser Arafat, be they lawyers, doctors or educators, and he has forever embittered the whole of Palestinian society."

Quotes drawn from the piece:

Ramallah is the most cosmopolitan of the Palestinian cities, and the destruction wrought there stands as evidence that Ariel Sharon did not only seek a war on terrorism, as he claimed, but also a war against the future peacemakers of Palestinian society...

"Some people blow up bombs and Israel makes all of us suffer for it." ...

The very institutions of the intellectual class were utterly ransacked. Christina Storm, director of Lawyers Without Borders, commented that it seemed as if the Israeli government sought to embitter any and all future peacemakers in the legal arena of educated Palestinian society. While Sharon's spokesman Raanan Gissen stated to the AP on April 21 that Israeli troops had "explicit orders to avoid unnecessary damage," the damage to non-governmental and private organizations was extensive...These attacks can only be construed as a policy and not a series of accidents.

...the Israeli raids destroyed "years of information built into knowledge, time spent thinking by thousands of people working to build their civil society and their future or trying to build a private sector that would bring a sense of economic stability to their country." With specious rationale, Sharon and the IDF continue to explain away this damage (when they even bother to) as justifiable in a search for terrorist infrastructure.


Wade Frazier sent us this:

Five Star Piece:  If You Want a Free Vote, Ask Nicely, Terry Jones -- April 21, 2002
Full piece: http://www.theconversation.org/venezuela.html

Suzanne's comment: I've been waiting for the right piece on Venezuela. How much horror about what America does in meddling where we have no business can we stand to read about? This was a breath of funny air -- well, sort of funny. At least it's through a relatable lens, with a delicious tongue in its cheek. "...although Mr. Chavez 'was democratically elected' one had to bear in mind that 'legitimacy is something that is conferred not just by a majority of the voters, however' [sic]. Clearly, this involves a fundamental re-evaluation of what we understand by democracy, and I offer here some thoughts on the principles - other than counting votes - which might confer legitimacy."

Quotes drawn from the piece:

It is no good people blindly voting in any Tom, Dick or Hugo if they are not acceptable to Washington. If this is true of Iraq, North Korea, Serbia and the UK, it is doubly true of South America and trebly true of a country that happens to be the third largest supplier of oil to the US. It is also no good imagining that landslide victories are any guide to legitimacy. Just because Chavez has twice been elected President by the largest margins in Venezuela's history, and just because his government has twice the number of elected representatives that its opponents have, that does not mean it can go around passing any legislation it wants. According to the 'Florida Rules', the narrower the margin of victory, the greater the legitimacy. In fact, if the victor actually has fewer people voting for him than the loser (almost half-a-million fewer in the case of George W. Bush) then that is democracy's way of awarding him carte blanche to do whatever he and his friends in the oil business want.


Five Star Piece:  Surprise Best Seller Blames U.S., Michael Massing -- May 4, 2002
Full piece: http://www.theconversation.org/chomsky911.html

Suzanne's comment: Thanks to Noam Chomsky for bottom-lining the horror of our day, and for giving us an echo of what Michael Moore made clear to us about the size of our ranks -- Chomsky's post 9/11 tome also is a runaway bestseller. Although this is a straightforward news report and not an opinion piece, like most of our Five Star Pieces, the data about the book here is a satisfying phenomenon in these polluted times. [Note: quotes are as they appear in the news report.] "People said it would have no success whatsoever," said Daniel Simon, the publisher of Seven Stories, "because most Americans ere lock-step behind the war." As soon as the volume hit bookstores, however, it began selling briskly, and it hasn't stopped. "People are coming in every day, asking, `What can I read that can give me some understanding of what's happening?' " said Virginia Harabin, the floor manager at the Politics and Prose Bookstore in Washington. "This is the one I recommend."

Quotes drawn from the piece:

"9-11," as the volume is titled, analyzes the attacks from the distinctive perspective that Professor Chomsky has honed in more than a dozen books. "While the attacks were 'horrifying atrocities,' he writes, 'we can think of the United States as an innocent victim only if we adopt the convenient path of ignoring the record of its actions and those of its allies.'" "'The United States, he asserts, is 'a leading terrorist state.'"
 
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Carol Rios of Santa Fe, New Mexico, writes:

I would love to continue receiving more conversations.  Thank you for the concern for honesty and responsibility regarding our society's ideations and creations.  I am grateful that people are making space in their lives to inform themselves as you are, and will be able to cut through indoctrinations to get at realities, and expose hype for what it is.  If I may add my voice along with yours to a concerted effort to unveil the distortions, I will certainly try my best to do so.  Thanks once again.

Allan Savory, Center for Holistic Management [http://www.holisticmanagement.org],  writes:

What a wonderful and telling comment this is, from Geov's column, "The Fight: All Bow Down and Pray to the Almighty Dollar," in your last Update:

"As progressive activists wrestle with trying to change a whole constellation of destructive government and corporate policies, abroad and at home, with little or no help from either major party, the first daunting challenge is to even get people to care, and, once they care, to believe that we can make a difference...last weekend, tens of thousands of people descended upon Washington, D.C. (and other cities) to protest.  Many people feel the void of exactly such human-scale concerns in their lives and in our society. Many people can remember quite vividly when their lives were better, and/or can imagine quite vividly their lives might improve. In every one of these small towns you see on a road trip, there are Wal-Marts, but there are also good people doing inspiring things."

I am due to speak to a think tank on Tuesday at Sandia National Labs and will use this as it so illustrates the points I will be making in my efforts to get people to understand how little hope there is in today's policies dealing with poverty and violence.
 
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